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Playing the Maniac -Part 1

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     You have been waiting patiently and thrown away cards you knew could be a problem, and your patience has paid off, you finally look to see AA staring at you in YOUR hand!  Or, first hand of the game you are lucky (or unlucky) enough to see the same hand.  In both circumstances you feel the tingle of excitement as you know this is your chance to double or triple up.  You are "UTG" (Under The Gun, first to bet) and don't want to scare everyone off so early in the game.  Since the blinds are so low, so you give a simple 3x the blind bet and figure it safe.  The table folds around and the player on the button pushes all his chips into the pot.  This is what you waited for!  One on one with the best starting hand at a shot to double.  You call and the player shows K4 suited.  You wonder why he pushed in, but ignore it since his odds are not very good anyway.  You watch the flop, K82.  Fine, he hit his top card which does not give him the hand.  The turn is a K and the river is a 4.  OUCH! 

     You had AA, raised it up and he re-raised all in with an ugly hand.  Of course you are calling his all in pre-flop with AA.  But you sit there stunned wondering if he just happens to have some sort of software to know what the flop, turn and river will be.  You second guess your own playing ability.  You start to wonder if you shouldn't just re-raise all in with ATC yourself.  You wish you could reach through the screen, grab them by the throat and throttle for being so stupid as to not know your hand.  You consider attempting to explain the finer points of solid poker play, but what ends up coming across the screen looks closer to this: 


You @#$#$^ idiot!  What the @#$# was going through your @#$@# @#%%^ (&*%* mind!  You are a !@%^&R$*#!!!!!  And your mother…” 


     Well, that is it.  Not too much was going through his mind other than the fact he didn't know your hand and expected that his re-raise all in would force you to fold.  He was playing his game.  Yes, he was a huge dog (way behind) in the hand pre-flop, but he has no clue at what the flop, turn and river will bring any more than you do.  Often these player are impatient players and they do not know how to play after the flop, so pushing in gives them the best shot to win the hand.  If they do win the hand, they double their stack in a hurry.  These players are the most frustrating.  If I had hair on my head they would make me pull it out.  They believe they are the best players out there.  They believe they can force anyone to fold.  They count on luck every hand and then believe they made the right play when they make a horrible suck-out. 
     There are many crazy aggressive players, Maniacs, that do not watch the play at the table and will push in time and again with a weak hand to try to force others to fold.  Some do it out of planning, others due to lack of skill.  Sometimes it works for them, other times they give a lot of chips away.  This must be understood.  This is part of poker.  Players that push in with weak hands are what allow me to increase my stack in a hurry.  These players can also kill a game for me.  The biggest key to playing this type of player is to control your emotions.

      We all love to bust out a player that we cannot stand at a table.  The player constantly pushing in will prevent others from seeing a flop after they have put in a bet and irritate the entire table.  We get mad, we send hexes through the screen, we curse them silently and we smile big when they lose all their chips.  What I see happen quite often always amazes me. Quite sane players, go nuts! The rest of the table will see the maniac push with j9 off suit and they will start calling his bets with similar hands, knowing his hands are weak.  Instead of the maniac player being behind in the odds each hand, the emotional calls by the rest of the table allow him to continue to rake in chips with better odds hands than would usually be the case.  He will go down some and then gain more, but remain at the table as a constant irritant.  This fun game has become a vendetta against one player.  The table is now playing into his style, doing exactly what the maniac wanted and he starts pulling in chips every hand.  The maniac gains a stack that nobody can touch, and now is calling every hand with anything he holds. The maniac has created an odds nightmare to the average player.
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zzangelzz 2 posts

Impressive post Skoal.You about said word for words my thoughts in the same situation...I even often wonder if the software at these times is designed to pay the agressor.Still it happens and we can't get mad at the person for winning by rights but it's hard not to during the moment.
I try my best to stay out of the "maniac's' way however it does get annoying. I have the worst luck to someone I allowed to annoy me at the table.Does anyone else?
My theory is to stay out of their way unless I get cards  and then I somehow think its best to go in with those cards being the aggressor only. Dont give him the chance to be the first aggressor.